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TCWD Podcast: An atheist and a recovering Christian walk into the Pope's funeral

TCWD Podcast: An atheist and a recovering Christian walk into the Pope's funeral

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Apr 30, 2025
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Maybe two non-Catholics are not the best people to discuss the legacy Pope Francis is leaving behind, although Catholics like Ross Douthat and JD Vance are doing worse. Jessa cries about the death of the pope, and Nico manages to put his Catholic school trauma to the side to assess Pope Francis as a world leader and not just a religious one.

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From Colombia. Works in the non-profit sector. Writes about culture in sports.
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