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Zeja Zensi Copes's avatar

Thinking about your Monstrous Men piece in relation to the Drake nonsense. I do wonder if part of the reason that our culture is eating itself alive is because we allowed predation to become synonymous with talent, so there was no way to check the vultures at the door.

What I mean is - if you allow someone brilliant to be a money-hungry creep *because* they are brilliant, that is one thing. It is, like you’ve argued, their talent that gives them a pass. But the talent itself still needed to exist.

But too much of that predatory behavior got swept under a rug; it was too easy to normalize it, to take evil as a given. Applying community standards was too hard and would dry up the money and it was a different time blah blah. It is impossible to keep vultures out of the community when it is taken as a given that people *generally* have a right to degrade those more vulnerable than them.

Then the rot spreads further and faster than anyone could have predicted, and everything gets eaten up. Except there is always someone who predicted it, they just got shouted down or bullied out, and now we have to deal with the shambles when we could’ve just listened the first time and done the hard thing.

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jesse's avatar

I've been thinking about this lately re: my own scene of queer artists. It's frustratingly true that money seems to corrupt everything it touches, but my friends and I are always joking about passing the same five dollars back and forth, and I wonder if it's even possible to form mixed-class communities where we could maybe stop having to do that so much. It also makes me think of the shift away from talking about queer "community" to the importance of queer "spaces"-- like, we'll give you a hangout zone like a club or a coffee shop, sure, but if you want people who share your values or want you around at all, you're on your own.

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