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Graham Dethmers's avatar

I think this gets at why there's such a resurgence in interest in "older" morals and thinking: the present is all chaos and confusion, surely the past will know what to do! While there are modes of thought to challenge ourselves with in Plato, etc, the idea that you can just subscribe to being a stoic or a traditionalist Catholic or a Burkean conservative or even an Enlightenment skeptic avoids looking the present in the face

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N. Juneau's avatar

One of the old fashioned views surrounding patriarchy that seems to have completely evaporated is the idea that "a real man" is a man whose time, pursuits, and energy is primarily engaged in service to others - service to family, community, women, children, etc. This sounds like a nice barometer for masculinity because in a way it is, but what made it patriarchal was the paternalizing undertone to a lot of it - via this "service", men also had influence. Because we did once rely on this generosity or philanthropy or simple assistance of some kind from men, we were also dependent on men. Because we aren't as dependent on them as we used to be, this notion of masculinity as defined by service just doesn't really seem to exist anymore. And in fact the entire reaction to this definition has been replaced with this hostile, misogynistic backlash to feminism that takes a really personal tone - "well, fine, since you bitches think you have it all figured out I ain't doing shit anymore! Change your own tires!" etc.

The hustle thing in particular seems totally antithetical to that more traditional concept - instead of "be in service and available to the world", its "fuck the world and get yours, its there to be screwed". I have a hard time with the arguments about how this is solely an articulation of current capitalist logic because the previous definition of masculinity was also fundamental during the emergenc of capitalism - and was frankly common until very recently. I usually do think most really anti-social attitudes have something to do with capitalist logic, but it simply doesn't explain the current prevalence of this by itself.

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